To Otto and Paul and the folks at Photo.net
I’m sitting here, still completely stunned that there was even a thread about my work and post-processing out there on Photo.net. I was contacted yesterday by a client of mine who thought I might be interested in the online discussion, and then again by Bill Morgan today, asking if I could respond to this thread. It’s funny, really–If anybody actually knew the way that I worked, both as I shoot and how I post-process my images, they’d be totally uninspired and quite frankly, disappointed. I am a purist with my work and no technical genius by any means, my whites are sometimes blown out and it’s true—my tux’s tend to have a bluish cast to them. My work is often out of focus and sometimes my compositions are completely unorthodox. And the truth is, I don’t even use photoshop, except to re-size my images and to sharpen them for the web (Magic Sharp–which is the only Kubota action I even know how to use). That being said, I do owe you, Paul and Otto an apology for never responding to some of your questions. Quite frankly, I didn’t even know how to answer some of them. Honestly, I don’t consider myself strong enough, technically to be dishing out advice.
So, without further ado I will share some of my secrets—you may be surprised, and please–if you have something bad to say about me in response please don’t say it here. I’m still reeling from some of the comments on the forum.
1.)I shoot jpeg. I know, I know—the biggest sin of a “professional photographer”. This statement right here will probably start an entire new thread. However, I shoot jpeg for 2 reasons–one technical and one practical. I find jpeg color to be truer to reality and easier to manage. I will sometimes shoot RAW if I know that I will be working with impossible lighting situations, but jpeg usually gets the job done for me and I attribute my “color quality” to the jpeg. That being said, when shooting jpeg, one needs to make sure that her exposure is pretty dead on. It is true that RAW has much more “information” and it is certainly more forgiving. But ahhhhh—the color right out of a jpeg is just yummy. And practically speaking, RAW is just too large. I save all of my original files and already have 2 1TB drives totally full of jpegs–think about how full my shelves would be with over 250 weddings shot in RAW. Shooting jpeg is simply more economical.
2.)Depth of Field. I touched on this a bit in a post last fall. I almost always shoot all the way open. Even when I’m doing family portraits I will rarely shut down to anything larger than 3.2. This may explain the very soft background and sharp focal points in my work (and also some of the botched up family portraits). My very favorite lens is the 50mm 1.4. It’s what I was using when I photographed Hannah’s headshot/bridal portrait. You can shoot a portrait with this lens and only the eyes will be sharp. I have never used a tool to blur some things and sharpen others. This is all done with lenses and depth of field. I’m too lazy and have far too many images to edit to use photoshop tricks that can be achieved in camera. For those who are reading this and are not familiar with aperture, the smaller the number on the aperture ring, the more selective the focal point. It is this that creates the creamy depths of field. If somebody wants everything in the frame to be sharp, one would shut down the aperture to a higher number on the ring. The other lenses that I use at weddings are the 70-200mm 2.8 and the 24mm 1.4. Other great lenses are the 80mm 1.4 and the 24-70mm. Prime lenses tend to be my favorite. I shoot with a Nikon D3 and use a D300 as my back up.
3.)Backlight. I backlight a lot of my compositions. It’s how I get an even exposure on my subjects’ skin. I rarely—and I mean, rarely use a fill light and did not use one in any of the images posted on Hannah and Eric’s wedding post. I absolutely hate artificial light unless one is using it for a more stylized shoot. It looks pretty hokey to me and I prefer my work to look journalistic. Place your subject between yourself and the sun. Be careful though– the key to beautiful back light is an amazing lens hood, or standing in a shady spot. Otherwise, one can easily blow the entire background out—a mistake I make probably every time I shoot. I also overexpose a bit when doing this to ensure that my subjects face isn’t too dark.
4.)I do all of my editing in lightroom. Like I said earlier, I never use photoshop or Kubota actions. I find them over-used and often cheesy. And again, I’m too lazy to spend that much time on a computer. I like to shoot–not edit. The one thing that I do in lightroom (and have overdone in the past) is black clipping. On that little histogram, I generally drag the blacks up which tend to pop the colors without making the image over the top contrasty. However, you will lose details in your blacks when you do this–to me an easy sacrifice for beautiful skin tones and colors. I never saturate my colors. To put it frankly, when I sit down to edit my work, I aim to make the images look like film. I like contrast, black blacks, white whites and as many midtones as I can have. I often use the “fill light” tool in lightroom to bring back some detail after I have clipped the blacks. I love this tool! I shot film for years and I studied Fine Art at CU in Boulder and learned how to print–never in the 5 years that I attended class, were we sat in front of a computer and taught how to “post process”. I was a pre-digital art student. Making the switch from film to digital was hell for me–hell. It took me years to hone my style, and I honestly think I found it by mimicking the look of film. It’s still surreal to me, that people are asking me how I edit my digital. It’s pretty ironic, actually.
5.)This isn’t a secret to my work, but the fundamental way that I try to live: Everything I do, I do because I like it for me. I never took workshops, never stalk forums, and try to keep myself from obsessing over other photographers work. There are days that I’ve spent hours looking at other photographer’s work and then wanted to throw myself under a bus. Seriously. I can’t compare myself to others. My work is my own. I am an artist and have found a style that works for me and that my clients like. There are a lot of people who don’t like my work—hell there have been some days when I check my stats and see that “julie Harris Photography Sucks’ is an actual search string. I don’t claim to know more than anybody, and I’m certainly not technically driven, but I will say that I absolutely love the art of photography and am inspired by all sorts of photographers—not just the perfect, “by the book” ones… Nan Goldin in actually one of my favorite photographers and if her work were ever posted on a forum and people didn’t know that she was famous and respected, I believe that her work would be shredded. My advice to anybody trying to learn some tricks is to keep it simple—do what works for you and keep your work pure. One of the posters on yesterday’s thread, said: “one’s eye is the finger print to her work.” And that pretty much sums it up. The camera is an extension of your soul–it’s how you see and interpret the world. Focus on this, and the technical aspects will follow.
peace!
My friend, the top of your blog states it perfectly… something about popular opinion? 🙂 Let it slide. I wish I could create a big blanket to protect you from stinging words but thats what whiskey is for!
Bonjour my friend! Mais quelle histoire.
The day I email you that your work inspired me for a wedding in Paris I discover this photonet drama. I was shocked by the technical aspect of this thread when photography is considered like an art. Easy for some geek to give their cold judgements.
You rock. I know it. You know it. Good enough 😉
I have seen your website before and often wondered how you get your style of colors. Although I don’t want to imitate it, I find it unique and very much “a style”. I was most impressed with your shot of the girl on the bicycle biting her lower lip.
I have used photo.net as a resource since 2003 and was blown away when I saw a thread about you. I can totally see why it would open a floodgate of discussion. Your work is well done, Julie.
I really enjoy your work and your kind of ‘unorthodox’ style and what not.. Though I guess it is a little surprising to me that you use JPG. I know there are some spectacular people out there who do. Perhaps it surprises me more because I am trying right now to fix some of my crappy wedding photos and I feel like I can’t do anything with a JPG like I can a RAW file. I haven’t shot JPG in more than a year and a half and I feel like it’s a foreign substance. I am also not a big photoshopper and do most everything, except for resize and sharpen for web, in Lightroom..
Anyhow.. thanks for sharing your insight 🙂
Julie,
My Paul wants you to know he only emailed you to let you know that these people were commenting on your work. We love you and think their comments are ridiculous! You are awesome and we are so excited that YOU will be our wedding photographer!
Love,
Michelle
I am not a professional photographer by any means but I do know that your work has moved me to tears more times than i can count. Thank you for your generous work and you genuine self.
You are truly gracious and your response is admirable. There are jealous haters abound and I for one will always be singing your praises!
I’ve been a silent admirer of your work for over a year now, and I really love what you do and the honesty in which you go about it. Anyone who can say something like #5 is definitely worth following in my book. Don’t let what other people say deter you, I think you’re doing the best thing you can do yourself which is following what your heart feels is the best
Go ahead Julie. Gotta to love a “nikkor camera” good lenses and jpgs! Everybody’s style is different (even the folks trying to copy someone else’s). Best thing to do is appreciate others work, love your own.
Peace.
I don’t know a lot about jpegs and RAW and Photoshop and Lightroom. But I do know that the most spectacular, memorable photographs of my family have been taken by you, and I shall treasure them all my life. Let’s start a thread about that.
Thank you for being such a breath of fresh air: honest and real. I think that is why we gravitate to your work so easily. We have nothing negative to say. We are simply inspired. The quiet naturalness of your work is so appealing. Whenever you happen to be in the Miami area, please drop us a line. We live on an island and I can even take your husband spearfishing !:)
Warmest regards,
Otto & Priscilla Haring
Lovely post Julie…
Julie, My Sweet. You are an artist through and through. There is not one part of you that doesn’t look at the world from a completely true perspective. Anyone who would even try to discredit your work, doesn’t know you and is clearly not an artist themselves. You are beautiful, and your spirit and light come through your work. Photoshop or lightbox, or whatever the fuck people use to fix or not fix shit in their pictures has nothing to do with the way you can capture someone’s smile, or the way their eye sparkles when they hear their daughter say “I love you.”
I adore your work, your art, and the way you allow me to see life through your work.
love love love you doll
Hi Julie,
I feel bad that you have to go and justify your work like this. Photography (and art) is such a subjective area that of course there are spectrums of appreciation! But turning the dislike into being so negative and critical about someone’s work…I don’t think I will understand this either. Thanks for sharing this and being so honest. That’s probably the best strategy, but you’re hopefully getting the message that not everyone feels this way…
Keep up the amazing, honest, work. You’re inspiring to me, too!!
Well said Julie. Brandyn told me last night about this post, and before even reading it, my response to him was – “that’s why we love Julie, because she shoots “real”. I don’t want the images of my family and precious moments like weddings and new babies to be digitally altered. We’re real and that’s how we want to see/remember it. Thank you for being so real.
From one BFA student to another: Julie – I’ve been a huge fan of yours since you photographed my best friend’s wedding in 2007. Your work is absolutely incredible and inspiring. It’s comforting to know that it’s possible to be a successful professional without obsessing over the technical aspects. Keep keeping it real – it’s what makes you a kick ass artist!!!
Julie,
I’ve been “silently” following your blog for about two years now and I must say this post really hit home for me. I’ve always stressed about being “up-to-par” with other photographer’s work and now; you’ve truly opened up my eyes. I thank you so much for that. It’s about expressing what “YOU” see through the lens NOT what you think others will be expressing. Your work is elegant, true, and unique; don’t let anyone tell you different.
All the best to you!
Trey 🙂
Julie,
I’ve been “silently” following your blog for about two years now and I must say this post really hit home for me. I’ve always stressed about being “up-to-par” with other photographer’s work and now; you’ve truly opened up my eyes. I thank you so much for that. It’s about expressing what “YOU” see through the lens NOT what you think others will be expressing. Your work is elegant, true, and unique; don’t let anyone tell you different.
All the best to you!
Trey 🙂
I feel a little bit like George Bailey right now! I promise that I didn’t post entry this to “justify” my work in anyway or to get soothing comments and affirmation from y’all. I really posted this because I felt that I needed to honestly respond to a thread of misinformation about processing and the do’s and don’ts of photography. But Wow! Thank you, thank you, thank you… I’m feeling pretty loved today!
Julie, you totally rule. Just had to say that. 🙂
This is the first time Ive been exposed (hehe, I made a funny) to your work, and really, it doesnt matter whether I like it or not (I, in fact, do) – I LOVE your outlook. I love your vibe, I love your spirit, and Ill KNOW your clients do too. Keep it up, Julie….you really DO rock. The haters do too…otherwise they wouldn’t be taking the time to comment 😉
Babe – I think you’ve handled this whole thing remarkably well. It’s not easy to have people opine about your art, especially when some of it is not very complimentary. Rest assured that some of your naysayers do not have links to their own work on Photo.net and some of those who do, should probably quit photography altogether.
You’re a great artist and those that know you and follow your work do so for a reason. You love life and people and you capture that in your photography in a truly exceptional way. I found this quote that I think is apropos for this moment:
“To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.” Elbert Hubbard
Haters abound. Pay them little heed.
Love you!
Jesse
I’ve NEVER posted a comment on a thread before. Heck, I’ve never even followed blogs before. As a beginner photographer trying to educate myself as much as possible through the words of other photographers, I stumbled across this article and was completely FLOORED with what I was reading! As a science-based professional, a + b most often equals c for me. Photography, however, awakens the creative closet in my mind and allows me to push boundaries outside of the “equation-like” limitations I often encounter in my everyday job….and in the article, I uncomfortably felt like others were trying to categorize your technique/style into its proper equation. This is not rocket science, people! The only equation I see here is: your equipment + natural sense of a “good shot” = one beautiful talent. Admiring your work from Minneapolis, MN.
Edit to my comment – EEK! I didn’t mean to say that the haters rockm meant to say that the haters love you too….lol. I really do know sentence structure and proper grammar…. 😉 But I think you know where I was going…anyway, thank you for the inspiration. Here’s to a very successful 2010!
Just wanted to add (and agree with Erin H.) that the quote by Jack Kerouac at the top of your blog certainly sums up your work and the “controversy” it stirred on photo.net.
“Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion…” B
Brilliant!
i have some of the same thoughts that have been expressed. after reading this blog i was grateful to hear some of how you do what you do, because it turns out amazing everytime. but the truth of the matter is its amazing because of you. not because of some editing software or editing skills, but because you are unbelievable behind that camera & what your extremely artistic eyes see & capture. there is a reason we are addicted to this blog and your latest work- YOU. i hope in some small way, someday i will be able to produce your kind of work. keep amazing us with those jpegs julie….you are the only one that can.
I shoot ‘high society’ events with a professional in Southern CA. I often rub shoulders with other photographers and I am miffed by the snootiness that often surrounds this business. I have followed your site for quite awhile – your work has been my inspiration. I must be honest and tell you that I am relieved that you have created such beautiful images so simply and honestly. Thank you for your candor … and best wishes to you and Jesse for a wonderful, successful 2010!!
I am starting to feel a little bad that I started the thread on the net. Julia, I hope you took the thread as compliment of your work! My next thread will be about Annie Leibovitz since you are in the same league…:)
Kind regards,
Otto
Julie, I’m enjoy your photography a great deal; what puts it over the top for me is your emphasis on the “art” of photography. Your style has is over flowing with “style” and a personal signature. Love it!!!
Oh wow, all the drama!!!!! I think it is funny as hell all the people that commented on the original thread and said “I don’t know why she picked some of the photos she did from that wedding for the blog”, what closed minded people. These are the same people that go to the local park, take photos of plants and flowers with a tripod and a flash and say that they are a professional photographer because their photos fit perfectly within the histogram. I totally understand what Otto’s original post was about. I use to wonder the same thing about your work before I met you. How does she get her photos to look like that??? Then I realized after working with you for the last almost 4 years, watching you shoot, watching you edit, and listening to you preach about the things you love and hate about our industry, I will never be able to replicate your work. We have the same camera, you’ve used my lenses and I have used yours, but your photos are always going to look the way they do because they are yours!!! Its your eye, your soul, your passion, and your crazy personality that give your photos the look that they do. We’ve talked before about having someone else pick your blog photos and see how close they come to your selections, and I think this is the perfect example of why it is so important that YOU are the one that selects the images because obviously, all your fans love you because of the choices you make. Its funny, when I was reading the post, I was actually getting defensive and wanted to kick some ass because of some peoples responses. PLEASE keep doing what your doing, don’t justify your work by explaining how you do it. You are the most successful photographer I personally know, and love the fact that you haven’t over played that fact like the Cali Cartel. LOVE YA!!!!
I shoot jpeg too and people tend to go like:”what?!”
Perfect response, Julie (not that one was necessary). This is why you’re such a rockstar. There is a reason that great photography and controversial views of it frequently go hand-in-hand. It is true that if Nan Goldin was an up-and-coming, modern-day photographer, she would be eaten alive. Your work was and always will be a topic of discussion, and whether the discussions are positive or negative, I hope you see that as a good thing. When you decide to post your photos, from a tearful mother-of-the-bride to a squatting dog, you’re saying (like I believe Nan Goldin did many times), “This is who I am. Take it or leave it.” Gotta love that about you. No one needs to encourage you to continue to be yourself, and that’s certainly not what I’m doing. I just couldn’t help but tell you that I was smiling and nodding in agreement the entire time I was reading this post. You are inspiring – both the images you produce and the attitude in which you go about doing it.
Thanks so much again, everybody! I feel very, very loved. Happy New Year to you all. I think it’s going to be a good one! 🙂
Julie, hi! I’ve been following your blog for a while now. And you know what? That is your works that really inspire me. And I think that your style is unique and that this is what does matter. Leave it to those thinking of technicality as the biggest issue. And I actually decided to learn photography after seeing your photos. And what might be more amazing to you, I live in Moscow, Russia. And have been to Colorado just once – such a beautiful state by the way 🙂 And what I do want to say is thank you! I loved your Paris and I love your family portraits, so emotional and so true.
Sorry Jules, I felt compelled to just tell you that I love you and your work. As a fellow artist (makeup), I too work for myself and then hope people love it. In my portfolio there are 20 pages, 8 of them are your images – I am privileged and honored.
Hi Julie, I read your blog every week and am always inspired by you and your images. Your work is beautiful. I really appreciate this post and find it refreshing that your work really just comes down to you, your talent and knowledge. You are fantastic. Thank you for the inspiration. 50mm 1.4 is my favorite too, although I am still learning! Happy New Year. Best, Heather
Julie,
Great post. I think this will help a lot of people.
I REALLY admire your independent spirit and courage to be true to yourself and your art. You do beautiful work. Thanks for the inspiration.
I have been following your work for maybe a year now (just before I photographed my first wedding) …and might I say you have been an inspiration and motivation to me ~ which has encouraged my desire to take on a new “client” ~ I often come to view and admire your work to be inspired.. but I do often get intimidated by your work due to HOW amazing each capture is both artistically but technically as well…as that is my discouragement (I lack the technical side)~and am learning mostly by hands on… but am SOOOO thankful you’ve posted this information about you and your work! I would LOVE to learn more..
~In fact, the timing of your post couldn’t have been more perfect in helping me … so thank you! I’ve always wanted to know how you shoot.. thank you~ You’re an inspiration to me!
You said:”I can’t compare myself to others. My work is my own. I am an artist and have found a style that works for me and that my clients like.”
AMEN! I love that you feel that in your bones….It speaks volumes of your true authenticity…which SHINES through your work by the way! You are always an inspiration, but mainly because you are YOU and offer that up so open heartedly!
Thanks for sharing!
Peace,
Margie
I know many who say, “I hate my wedding photos.” I absolutely cherish the photos you took and find your work amazing and inspiring. I googled “wedding photos denver” and your name popped up. I saw your work and knew you were the one for us. I never even met with another photographer.
Your work is amazing, Julie. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.
I don’t know how I came across your Web site, but I am so glad that I did. Your work is absolutely inspiring. I was so relieved to read that you shoot JPEG. I too have always thought that the color from a RAW file was kind of off compared to my JPEG files. I thought that my eyes were playing tricks on me since every wedding photographer I talk too, and every workshop that I have attended pushes RAW. Thank you for the insight 🙂
I just stumbled across your website as I was doing my regular search for inspiration from other photographers. I love your style – especially the maternity photos. I love the spontaneity and humor of them; so many maternity shots look way overdone to me. Anyways…. I’m actually writing to say “what she said!” in regards to your post. I’m blown away at some of the post processing some photographers proudly brag that they do. Too many tech-geeks who forgot about photography, is my impression.
… I love your work and I too love to use natural light. Your colours look photoshop’d and I hate using photoshop (i can’t figure it out most times) so its great to know that I can achieve the colour quality without photoshop. I will try the jpeg advice. I usually photograph RAW. Thanks again for sharing some of your ‘secrets’, I’m indebted!
Awesome. I love your style, my dad compared mine to it. How flattering. Unfortunately, at 41 I’m still learning how to use my camera. I completely related to your comments about obsessing over other shooter’s work and subsequently wanting to fling my gear under a bus…off a bridge, what have you.
Way to go on your eloquent and insightful reply to such harsh suppositions.
Keep up the good work!
Jen Shaw
I just wanted to let you know that you inspire me very much. I hone over other photographers work trying to get my pictures right. I am a beginner and have never taken any classes but my little photography business has taken off and sometime is freaks me out and I feel so unqualified. Your last line of this post made me cry. I have always found beauty in the world and I always wanted to be able to create something that made me feel like a beautiful sunset or a smiling child made me feel. I was never an artist so I never felt like I could do this. The first time I picked up a camera I realized that I can do it with photography. Thanks for your inspiration. Even though I still can’t adequately explain the difference between aperture and shutter speed to someone, when I look at my pictures I feel something. Your words in this post assures me that that’s perfectly OK:) Thanks
Hey Julie, I just found your blog. Your work is awesome. I love your vision and how you hold nothing back to express it. I’m in love with this post. I’m also an un-popular jpeg shooter (snicker) and for the same reasons. Most of this post rings true with what I’m trying to do already and the rest of it taught me things I didn’t think of before. Thanks for sharing!
Great post and as an aspiring (hobby) photographer (engineer by profession), I love your honesty in your work and behind your work. Huge fan!
Great response to the photo.net brouhaha, Julie. I enjoyed reading it as I enjoy your photos. Cheers from New York!
Thank you for your honesty. It is inspiring. Congrats on your precious new baby girl. As you mentioned on a recent post, here comes a whole new wave of inspiration. Enjoy ever moment, it only gets better and better.
Hi Julie! I love your approach to photography. I also have the same philosophy for editing photos, the less the better and the more I can do on my camera the better. Your work is really inspirational. I have just started shooting weddings and maternity/pregnancy photos for friends and family, and I get encouraged by your frankness in this post about the mistakes you make and how you view yourself and your work. My photography does not compare to yours at all but instead of judging my work harshly, your statements made me more accepting of the things I want to improve on. So thank you for putting all of this out there and I look forward to your projects!
thanks for posting this, I love your work I think it is fantastic. i have always loved photography i always have a camera on hand. i love that you shoot in jpeg, i love that you don’t edit your photos and i love that you don’t use photoshop. it took me forever to buy a digital only because i love film.
i am currently trying to see if I can actually do this for a living! so your article was very inspiring.
thank you
*Julie*
I just want to say that you inspire me that much more after reading this entry in your blog. You are so natural and pure in your style and now knowing that you don’t spend hours editing post shooting, proves your talent. I adore your work and get trapped in your galleries every time i type http://www.julieharrisphotography.com into the search bar. Keep doing what your doing!
Elsa
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It’s refreshing to know that there are still some photographers left who avoid the fad of insanely over-editing their photos. I’ve actually featured this blog post, as well as you as a photographer on my personal blog kellypricems.wordpress.com. You can find the link to the blog post here: http://kellypricems.wordpress.com/2013/01/14/potdjulieharrisphotography/
Thanks for the inspiration, and for giving me hope after graduating with a photojounalism degree.
Dear Julie, I am a teacher at Mapleton Early College High School. I have two students who are looking for a photographer that they can interview to find out more on being an independent photographer. Would you be interested in giving up a few minutes of your week to helping educate these two girls in your world of work? Please let us know. Thanks.
Cindy Lewis
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To sum up what I’m thinking right now: “Word!”
I Love what you said- all of what you said. Especially #4. I too came from a fines arts degree in film. I’ve recently gone back to the U of Utah to audit some digital darkroom classes and am blown away every day by what people say about wedding photographers in general. More than ever, I see insecurity disguised as ego and my conclusion is the same as yours, stop comparing yourself. My advise to others is to get a pt job at a coffee shop splitting your financial eggs between 2 baskets – this will help deffer the Will to squash all other photographers souls.
What a lovely bride! I like the simple make-up and the shots were really nice. The natural light is so beautiful on the bride. Wonderfully done.